Topic: New Apple lightning to USB adapter allows charging of Ipad

I just saw this -  http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0W2 … ra-adapter

Looks like it will allow you to connect UCX to the iPad while charging it smile

Does it work with RME or is there anything fishy ??

Here are more links :

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/1271 … arges-ipad

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2016/03/t … b-on-ipad/

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Re: New Apple lightning to USB adapter allows charging of Ipad

I misssed that one - will order immediately to test.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: New Apple lightning to USB adapter allows charging of Ipad

how pathetic.. why didn't they just release this in the first place ? i might take the original lightning adapter back to the apple store and ask for the new one free... i always wanted to charge while using the device and now they release this update after i spent money on the original i was forced to accept.  this company are a bunch of twats..

4 (edited by loonypac 2016-04-11 20:16:32)

Re: New Apple lightning to USB adapter allows charging of Ipad

It works fantastic with iPod Touch 5G + UCX. All you need seems to be an iOS device with iOS version 9+

Re: New Apple lightning to USB adapter allows charging of Ipad

ebulb wrote:

how pathetic.. why didn't they just release this in the first place ? i might take the original lightning adapter back to the apple store and ask for the new one free... i always wanted to charge while using the device and now they release this update after i spent money on the original i was forced to accept.  this company are a bunch of twats..

Lol yep thats apple

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Re: New Apple lightning to USB adapter allows charging of Ipad

It looks like a lot of iOS musicians are using the Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter.

Safe to say there is no use for the standard DC charger for the Babyface Pro (if using the Apple adapter) ?

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Re: New Apple lightning to USB adapter allows charging of Ipad

See my post and experience from last year:

https://www.forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopi … 06#p112206

The adapter will provide a *small* amount of USB power, usually for memory sticks or in my case, a Sennheiser USB headset . Unless the adapter has recently been modified to provide power according to the USB 3 power specification - but then I expect it would be designated as "MkII" or such.

So you still need to power the BabyFace independently.  I also have used a dual ouput USB power pack.  One output to the adapter via the standard USB to Lightning cable, the other output powering the BF/BFP using the dual USB cable that came with the BF.

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8 (edited by wderganc 2017-11-11 06:10:46)

Re: New Apple lightning to USB adapter allows charging of Ipad

Too bad hmm

Are you using the iPad Pro 9.7" from last year? I wonder if that model requires a lot more power than other iPads?
The Apple power adapters vary as well. The most powerful I have is 12 watt.

Edit:

So, looks like the 9.7" iPad Pro has a Lithium Polymer (32.4 Whr) battery, while my iPad Mini 4 has a Lithium Polymer (19.1 Whr). Based on that it's probably safe to assume they have fairly different power needs and that the Mini 4 *may* charge fast enough to not lose power while keeping the BFP powered as well. Let me know if I'm not making sense.. smile

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/ipad … specs.html

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/ipad … specs.html

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Re: New Apple lightning to USB adapter allows charging of Ipad

The USB3 Lightning adapter does NOT power ANY USB audio interface. Clear now?

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

10 (edited by panatrope 2017-11-13 00:54:52)

Re: New Apple lightning to USB adapter allows charging of Ipad

To partly improve the clarity,perhaps we should look at the actual device specification:

https://www.apple.com/au/shop/product/M … r?fnode=91

I say partly, because Apple does not fully specify the capability of the adapter, focusing solely on its role as a facilitator for photo purposes.  So it does not specify directly what level of power it will provide to attached devices. (In an earlier version of this product spec, it mentioned "providing power to a connected camera" but this does not appear to be included in the current description.)  But it is similar to the earlier lightning to USB adapter, which will power some devices such as a USB-Ethernet adapter or USB headsets from the iPhone/iPad (though with the latter I occasionally get a message like 'unsupported device' when it is connected, even though patently it works!).

But we should not lose sight of the fact that its arrival provided a previously absent facility of keeping an iPad charged during extended audio operations with attached USB devices that are not certified MFi. Giant leap forward for audio mankind. (There are other USB audio devices that have MFi certification, and will also supply power to the attached iPad; RME have chosen not to adopt this approach for perfectly valid reasons.)

The new device does support USB 3 protocol data transfer, originally on the iPad Pro 12.5 and now the Pro 10.5 (but not the 9.7 - still limited to USB 2).  It does not support USB3 power standards, even when a 2.4A power adapter is connected to the Lightning port.  It will only provide charging power to the connected iPad, and some minimal power to the USB device to the same level as the old Lightning-to-USB adapter.

There is a great opportunity here for 3rd party manufacturers (Belkin, perhaps?) to come up with a version that will also transfer power from the charging port to both the iPad and connected USB devices, at least up to the old USB2 500mA limit.  Otherwise, for portable operations, a powering solution as previously described is necessary.  RME could consider an interface with built in battery for this sub-market but I doubt its viability given the market size.  (For outside broadcast work, where the above solution is a bit cumbersome I have found an adequate solution is something like the Zoom H-5 set to iOS interface mode mode, powered by its internal batteries.)

However, within the stated capabilities of the device, in combination the the BF or BFP and appropriate powering arrangements, as a member of the portable recording tribe, I find it works extremely well.

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Extremely informative, thank you!

ufx ii / bfp