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Topic: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

RME proudly presents TotalMix FX version 1.50, which is now available for public testing

The focus in version 1.50 lies on the complete remote control capability over network. TotalMix FX has long been supporting remote control via MIDI standard commands, the Mackie protocol and OSC. But these work only in banks, with limited performance, and do not use all the features available in TotalMix FX. Also the graphical surfaces differ significantly from TotalMix FX.

With the iPad app TotalMix FX for iPad a design identical to the desktop versions exists. However, the app has been developed specifically for the local control of an interface connected to the iPad, so on the iPad it offers the same as the desktop version on a computer with RME interface.

Version 1.50 now supports network remote over TCP, 'normal' network with Ethernet and WiFi. The remote side consists of the program/app TotalMix Remote, which basically does not differ from TotalMix FX. However, there is no communication to a local interface, but via network to all systems running TotalMix FX version 1.50. The remote software is available free of charge for Windows, Mac OS and (soon) iOS (iPad).

The remote software mirrors the current state of the host system on a Windows computer, Mac or iPad - the entire mixer state, the complete routing, all FX settings, Channel Layouts and the level meters. The latter show particularly clearly the great advantage of the TCP-based remote: lowest system load and very low latency. In contrast to popular, browser-based network solutions, TotalMix FX minimizes the burden on the remote client and the host, and thrills with fluid operation without delays. This is true even if a fader group is moved quickly, and many nodes need to process changing gain values. Even using standard WiFi, TotalMix Remote works quickly and seamlessly with TotalMix FX 1.50.

Whether a complete and clear control of the mix from a remote location, control of the mix with a Windows or iOS tablet connected via WiFi, the individual setting of monitor mixes from the respective musician, or a simple MeterBridge for all inputs, outputs and software playback channels on an additional display - the new network functionality opens up new, comfortable and versatile capabilities. And this is true for all RME interfaces since 2001 which are currently compatible with TotalMix FX.

The setup is simple: Enter the IP address of the host computer (where your audio interface is connected) into TotalMix Remote (which runs on a searate Windows, Mac or iOS device) - done. This is possible even without additional tools, since the host's address is displayed directly in the new Network Settings page in TotalMix FX (under Options).

TotalMix Remote with TotalMix FX 1.50 is capable of multi-device, multi-remote and multi-host operation. On the remote computer the extended remote functions of the normal desktop version are also available, so a remote of the remote via MIDI and Mackie protocol, typically with fader banks in hardware, is possible (Mac and Win, not iPad). Even the popular ARC USB, a USB-based remote control with a rotary wheel and 15 freely programmable, illuminated buttons, can be connected to the remote computer and used with the software TotalMix Remote (as the ARC USB can not be connected to an iPad this is not possible under iOS).

Activating the TotalMix Remote server in TotalMix FX and TotalMix Remote (Options, Network Remote Settings) will issue a Windows Firewall warning. Please allow communication or it can't work.


Something else?

There are some additional news in version 1.50:

- Fixed nap problem under Mac OS X
- Fixed shutdown problem under Windows
- Workspaces from UFX can now be used with UFX II
- Removed left-over context menu entries in DAW mode
- ARC USB is freed after 3 seconds when not assigned to any interface (use it as remote for other tasks)
- ARC USB supports Shift key for fine fader control
- ARC USB wheel rotation is now locked to the fader's travel position, unless going over the top and bottom
- Mac TM FX: Quick Workspaces were not saved after Cancel has been used
- Mac TM FX: Quick Workspace name (list entry) was not saved immediately

Any feedback is appreciated!


Downloads

Quick Guide to TotalMix Remote http://www.rme-audio.de/download/tmfx150guide.pdf

Windows:

TotalMix FX 1.50: http://www.rme-audio.de/download/totalm … _150b4.zip

TotalMix Remote: http://www.rme-audio.de/download/totalm … _150b4.zip


Mac:

TotalMix FX 1.50: http://www.rme-audio.de/download/totalm … _150b4.zip

TotalMix Remote: http://www.rme-audio.de/download/totalm … _150b4.zip

Installation: Exit TotalMix FX and copy the new version into Windows\System32 overwriting the old one, or the Mac's Applications folder (where it resides beside the old TotalMix as its name is TotalMix FX. Note that the automatic launch agent will only start the old version!).


iOS: The app TotalMix Remote for iPad is now available on the Apple App store for free download!


Known Bugs / Issues / Changes (constantly updated)

- [Fixed] TM Remote: Wrong localization in some dialogs
- [Fixed] TM Remote: Matrix: right channel field missing in all routings
- [Fixed] Host: doesn't like German Umlauts
- [Fixed] iPad App: Gain reduction level meters (Dynamics) sometimes not shown on some channels
- [Fixed] iPad App: MADIface Pro and XT FX I/O level meters don't work
- [Done] iPad App: Entering the Host IP address should not require Return key
- [Done] iPad App: Add vertical scrolling for Control Strip
- iPad App: Add option to prevent sleep
- Mac Workspaces of a host can not be loaded from a Win remote
- Mac Workspaces of a host can not be loaded from a Win host

Planned for the final release:

- Added in beta 4 - TM Remote: Firewall warning dialog if blocking is detected on program start

- Storing/loading of ARC presets
- Toggle TM FX open close via hotkey and ARC USB

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

Quick Guide to TotalMix Remote

TotalMix Remote is a remote control for TotalMix FX v1.50 and up, to control the hardware mixer and effects in RME audio interfaces. TotalMix Remote mirrors the current state of the host system on the iPad and Windows/Mac computers - the entire mixing state, the complete routing, all FX settings, up to the level meters, and everything in real-time. TotalMix Remote supports up to three hosts with multiple interfaces each, allowing Apple's popular iPad and Windows/Mac computers to adjust all the mixer and FX settings from a distance, via Ethernet and WiFi.

Supported Hardware - Limitations

Supported hardware: TotalMix Remote communicates with TotalMix FX 1.50 or up. Any RME hardware that can be used with TotalMix FX is supported automatically.

Limitations:

• Mixer View & GUI - When connected the remote computer / iPad will immediately have the complete routing and FX settings of the host, including mono and stereo channels, but not the host's GUI setup, like panel states open/closed of Settings/EQ/Dynamic, FX panel visibility, 2-Row or 3-Row mode and channel width. Channel width states can be stored as usual per Snapshot and completely as Workspace, locally on the remote computer. They need to be loaded manually after loading a Workspace on the host in case a 100% identical view is required.

• Workspaces - the Remote shows the Quick Workspaces (hotkey W on Windows/Mac) stored on the host, and allows to remotely load them. It is not possible to save complete Workspaces with mixer state from the Remote, or on the Remote. The Workspaces saved locally include GUI information only (Channel state wide/narrow, Channel Layouts, window size and position) and further local settings, to be able to have personalized views on the remote computer, independent from the view on the host.

• Real-time behavior - can suffer when the network is overloaded or the WiFi reception is insufficient. Level Meters will stutter then and faders do not move smoothly.

• Background operation on iPad - is not possible. This should not be a problem as the Remote doesn't need to do anything in background, and when called up very quickly reconnects and synchronizes its state.

• State - is shown in the upper right corner (offline or connected), or the Mac/Windows title bar.

Quick Start

On the host, in TotalMix FX go to the menu Options, Network Remote Settings. Click Enable TotalMix Remote Server to start this service. Under Windows a Firewall warning will come up. Allow TotalMix Remote or it won't work. This dialog also shows the host's IP, like 192.168.1.45.

Make sure both host and remote computer / iPad reside in the same network. Start TotalMix Remote. On the iPad tap on the gear symbol in the upper right corner, then on Host Connection Settings. On Windows / Mac either the dialog comes up automatically or can be called from the Search Connected Hosts dialog. Type in the host's IP address (like 192.168.1.45) into the IP field of Host Connection 1, and make sure it is activated. The port defaults to 7009 and usually must not be changed. In case this port is unexpectedly occupied a warning message will be issued. Choose a different port then.

Tap Done on top or click Ok. In the mixer view the state should change from offline to connected within a few seconds.

Tip

The remotes have the option Sync Channel Layouts active as default (in Preferences). This option transfers the Layout Presets and the current Channel Layout state from host to remote. Apart from the channel width state this option makes a mirror-style setup most easy. But when using the remote as individual setup, make sure to disable this option to have independent Layout Presets on the remote.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

Sorry for the dumb question but does TotalMix FX replace the older TotalMix? I notice that they have different names in the apps folder so they seem to co-exist.

Where do I find the official download of TotalMix public version incase I need to roll back? In the downloads area I only seem to find the HDSPe app and DigiCheck but I can't remember where I found Total Mix.

http://www.mysteryroommastering.com/
http://www.justincarlperkins.com/

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Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

It will replace TotalMix when we provide full driver packages. For testing right now simply exit TotalMix completely, copy TotalMix FX into Applications, then start it. If you loose the original simply reinstall the last driver.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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MC wrote:

It will replace TotalMix when we provide full driver packages. For testing right now simply exit TotalMix completely, copy TotalMix FX into Applications, then start it. If you loose the original simply reinstall the last driver.

Thanks, I had a feeling that Total Mix was included in the driver package but wasn't certain.

I will test the new TotalMix FX app starting now.

Thanks.

http://www.mysteryroommastering.com/
http://www.justincarlperkins.com/

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Amazeballs.  A dream come true, thanks RME!

The robust reconnection is very welcome and I speak after experiencing some very touchy live console remote apps.  CPU usage nominal.

Minor report: does not seem to pick up English locale for network connection dialogues "Cancel" (TMFX 1.5b2 & Remote 1.0b3) and help menus (Remote 1.0b3) "The help could not be called."

Madiface XT, Madiface, 3x Micstasy, ADI8QS
Sequoia 14,  W7Px64, W10Px64

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Thanks for your feedback. The help is an extra file included in the Windows driver package then. It is the same as the normal TM FX help plus the PDF content linked to above. Maccies have the advantage that the help is part of the app, so they see it already. What do you mean with 'Cancel' - that is English...(?)

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

Sorry I wasn't clear.  On my system Cancel is Abbrechen, and simarly the dialogue about the missing help is in Deutsch.  Everything else seems to be in English.

Madiface XT, Madiface, 3x Micstasy, ADI8QS
Sequoia 14,  W7Px64, W10Px64

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Potscrubber wrote:

Sorry I wasn't clear.  On my system Cancel is Abbrechen, and simarly the dialogue about the missing help is in Deutsch.  Everything else seems to be in English.

Thanks, will be fixed.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

Hello,

I'm now testing this network remote , it's working and I love it!

I'm posting here because I found something which might be a bug. I'm using Fireface UC with windows 10, and when I check "Enable TotalMix Remote Server " in Network Remote Settings, the front knob of the Fireface doesn't work correctly.
I uploaded a video so you can see the problem (I was always turning the knob counterclockwise) it's like the volume doesn't change smoothly...
https://vimeo.com/254189363

When I disable the Network Remote, the knob works correctly.
Anyone has same issue?

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leif_tomo wrote:

I'm now testing this network remote , it's working and I love it!

Good to hear!

leif_tomo wrote:

I'm posting here because I found something which might be a bug. I'm using Fireface UC with windows 10, and when I check "Enable TotalMix Remote Server " in Network Remote Settings, the front knob of the Fireface doesn't work correctly. When I disable the Network Remote, the knob works correctly.

I can not reproduce this. My UC is on firmware 123 (135), with driver 1.113. Yours?

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

Thanks for your reply MC,

MC wrote:

I can not reproduce this. My UC is on firmware 123 (135), with driver 1.113. Yours?

I was using the firmware 123 (135) and driver 1.099...I didn't know there was already 1.113.

I now installed the 1.113 and my knob problem is gone, thank you so much.

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Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

I edited post 1 with:

- Known Bugs / Issues / Changes (constantly updated)

- Planned for the final release

These will be updated constantly to reflect the current state of development.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

Brilliant MC..  Had a an issue with port 7009 so changed to 7004.. all good thus far.

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Matt McKenzie-Smith
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Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

All betas have been updated. Note that both TM FX are now on beta 3, both TM Remote on beta 4 (check the About dialogs to know what you currently use).  I updated download links and text/info in the first post of this thread.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Remote for iPad is out on App Store!
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/totalmi … 71593?mt=8

Works great, thank you!!

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Good find! Thanks!

Meanwhile it is also available in other app stores around the world.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Did a concert recording last night.  As recording control was physically seperated from the producers, I gave them remote control of their own submix.  Connection at their end was a WiFi AP, 100 Mb ethernet at mine.  Everything worked great, and no problems noted.  Excellent work RME!

Madiface XT, totalmixfx_win_150b3, totalmix_remote_mac_150b4.

Madiface XT, Madiface, 3x Micstasy, ADI8QS
Sequoia 14,  W7Px64, W10Px64

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Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

Remote is working with Windows 10 system and new ipad pro,  but I get the message,  " No UDP data received...",  when I start the app on the ipad... message also says to check firewalls... I did and they show that Total Mix FX is allowed to pass firewall...I also tried turning off windows firewalls but this didn't help... Remote works,  but keeps "disconnecting and re-connecting" and so when I try to adjust any parameters,  I have a long delay before action... say 3 to 6 seconds before a response...any ideas???    thank  you...

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And it's running fine on an ancient iPad 2 iOS 9.3.5.

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This is fantastic MC!!  Working great!

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Matt McKenzie-Smith
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Feature requests for the iOS app (I'm running it on an iPad Air):

Unless I'm missing something, it's not currently possible to scroll through the sidebar. At the moment the app requires to close menus so off-screen ones can be viewed. Here's an example of what I mean:
https://i.imgur.com/iHPoreh.png

In this case, the layout presets are partially off-screen and I'd need to close the groups menu to access them properly, which is a bit cumbersome. Scrolling through the sidebar would be much quicker.

Also the option to make scrolling a two-finger gesture (i.e. it scrolling requiring two fingers to swipe at the same time) would make it easier to avoid accidental fader adjustments (which I consider a potential health hazard).

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Wow!
I'm impressed how fast the app works in my ancient iPad 2, which is painfully slow on every other task.
I did a quick test and only thing I found out was some osake with the name of one of my Snapshots. It has letter Ä in it. It seems Remote can handle the capital Ä, lowercase ä goes grazy. Not a big thing.
Its the same with TotalMix Remote for Windows.

Many thanks for making your products even more great!


http://files.sonicimage.fi/rme/TotalMixFX_Remote_Snapshot_name.jpg

Sonicimage studio
RME FF UFX, XTC, ADI-648, MADIface USB
W10 Pro 64bit

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I have feature request: can you add an option to prevent iPad from sleeping while TotalMix is active?

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We will check. Until then you can disable sleep in the Settings, Display & Brightness, Auto Lock, set to Never.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Post 1 has been updated with TotalMix FX beta4, Mac and Win. It only fixes the Äy effect reported by Jayzteroid for the Snapshot names.

A lot more work has been put into iPad app 1.01 which is already available:

- Gain reduction level meters (Dynamics) sometimes not shown on some channels
- MADIface Pro and XT FX I/O level meters did not work
- Entering the Host IP address no longer requires Return key
- Added vertical scrolling for Control Strip

The suggestion for the No Sleep option came too late for now, but should be in the next one then.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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My God, Matthias, you can be so rude. 

Windows Firewall is a pretty basic feature for Windows, and that's the only complexity involved in your s/w.  So no I don't accept the idea my system  is "over complex" at all.  Frankly, you have very little knowledge of what I run or how, do you? 

And how ungrateful: it is YOU who describe TMFX/R as a beta s/w.  I didn't have to take time to be "try" to helpful to fellow Windows users.  Just some of us users would prefer a list of things to check IF the "install" does not run smooth.  You even *asked* for feedback and suggestions. 

And 7010?  I was *asked* for detals of the system, and reported it.  It was not a suggestion, but even if was, so what?  Port choices are unique to each system/network, which you ought to know.

Actually there are nice little Giga labels on this hub (switch) which are hard to miss, Daniel.

But you know what?  So what.  Collectively you have made your position quite clear.   

Posts duly deleted. 

You lot are on your own.  I will not make the mistake of contributing again.

Songwriter/Producer
David Day Ltd. UK
UFX 357/163/344/28 TotalMix 1.43 Win7/10 x64, i7 3.4GHz, 16Gb

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DD wrote:

Actually there are nice little Giga labels on this hub (switch) which are hard to miss, Daniel.

You perhaps misread my comments. I pointed out that there isn't likely such a thing as a Gigabit hub, as opposed to a switch, and that therefore comments about hub performance did not apply to your situation.

Regards
Daniel Fuchs
RME

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DD wrote:

My God, Matthias, you can be so rude. 

Windows Firewall is a pretty basic feature for Windows, and that's the only complexity involved in your s/w.  So no I don't accept the idea my system  is "over complex" at all.  Frankly, you have very little knowledge of what I run or how, do you? 

And how ungrateful: it is YOU who describe TMFX/R as a beta s/w.  I didn't have to take time to be "try" to helpful to fellow Windows users.  Just some of us users would prefer a list of things to check IF the "install" does not run smooth.  You even *asked* for feedback and suggestions. 

And 7010?  I was *asked* for detals of the system, and reported it.  It was not a suggestion, but even if was, so what?  Port choices are unique to each system/network, which you ought to know.

Actually there are nice little Giga labels on this hub (switch) which are hard to miss, Daniel.

But you know what?  So what.  Collectively you have made your position quite clear.   

Posts duly deleted. 

You lot are on your own.  I will not make the mistake of contributing again.

Sorry to hear this David!
I read your posts and Ramses questions and it was an interesting read. I also understood MC's comment because from both your posts it seemed more complicated then it is. Yes for someone like you (and me I have I tweaked firewall to, but it didn't cause issues) it was a little more complicated, but you are capable enough to fix it. But in normal situations there are no issues which was important to stress I think. After all it is a product that is meant to be accessible and it is in my experience. If you would simply have posted "what I had to do" instead of what windows users should do, all would be fine.
Hope you will still be here in the future!
BTW just a simple hdsp user here.

Vincent, Amsterdam
https://soundcloud.com/thesecretworld
HDSP9652 ADI-8AE HDSP9632
Cubase pro 9

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Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

Thanks Vinark. Unfortunately DD seems to have understood everything completely wrong. Maybe even my cleaning up of this thread, where I try to keep it readable and move posts (not delete) to the other thread, Questions and Answers.

DD, I had moved your post there because I found your detailed description useful for others that need a step to step guide. I only had a problem with the way you described it (which came over as 'all Windows users will have this problem and have to go this complicated route'), nothing else.

And when I commented that port 7010 is used by the popular tool Glasswire (which I didn't know until a few days back) it was thought as useful information for anyone reading here, not as critic to your post. Makes me really wonder how something like this can be misunderstood that much.

If there was something wrong in my wording I have no problem to apologize, DD. But please note that I was not aware of it, nor was it intentional.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

Moved some posts again to the TM FX Questions & Answers thread.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Installed TotalMix fx 1.5 today, and I'm very happy with the results. Found all working properly.

   Remote app on ipad working well, and was so easy to set up, took less than a minute. 

   Thank you RME.

Togspots, HDSP 9652 PCI, Cubase Pro 9.5, TotalMix FX 1.5  Scarlett 18i20, i7 3.4Gh 32GB ram

Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

Simon-Claudius wrote:

Here's an example of what I mean:

In this case, the layout presets are partially off-screen and I'd need to close the groups menu to access them properly, which is a bit cumbersome. Scrolling through the sidebar would be much quicker.

+1


Also the option to make scrolling a two-finger gesture (i.e. it scrolling requiring two fingers to swipe at the same time) would make it easier to avoid accidental fader adjustments (which I consider a potential health hazard).

+1000!!!

This was the first thing I noticed when I tried the app on an ipad. I wouldn't even consider to use this live before this gets fixed!!

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fripholm wrote:
Simon-Claudius wrote:

Here's an example of what I mean:

In this case, the layout presets are partially off-screen and I'd need to close the groups menu to access them properly, which is a bit cumbersome. Scrolling through the sidebar would be much quicker.

+1


Also the option to make scrolling a two-finger gesture (i.e. it scrolling requiring two fingers to swipe at the same time) would make it easier to avoid accidental fader adjustments (which I consider a potential health hazard).

+1000!!!

This was the first thing I noticed when I tried the app on an ipad. I wouldn't even consider to use this live before this gets fixed!!

+1

Anyone using TotalMix on an iPad for live work?

Eastwood Records
www.eastwoodrecords.co.uk

Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

It's a beta, give it a little time they will fix it.

Togspots, HDSP 9652 PCI, Cubase Pro 9.5, TotalMix FX 1.5  Scarlett 18i20, i7 3.4Gh 32GB ram

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Re: TotalMix FX version 1.50 supports remote control over network

Also the option to make scrolling a two-finger gesture (i.e. it scrolling requiring two fingers to swipe at the same time) would make it easier to avoid accidental fader adjustments (which I consider a potential health hazard).

I 2nd this.

Togspots, HDSP 9652 PCI, Cubase Pro 9.5, TotalMix FX 1.5  Scarlett 18i20, i7 3.4Gh 32GB ram