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Topic: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

The problem: Logic automatically reads data from all MIDI input ports, and also reacts on that data. Naturally this can cause unwanted behavior if remote controls and other stuff, not intended for Logic, are used with the computer Logic is running on. This might be TotalMix FX as well as the ARC USB or any other MIDI sending device.

For whatever reason Logic does not include a simple selection dialog, which of the system's MIDI inputs should be active for Logic. Instead ports have to be manually 'excluded' from Logic, which is anything but a simple procedure. There exist several discussions in the web, here is one that we found useful:

http://www.logic-users-group.com/forums … -pro.9436/

We followed the steps described like this:

- In the Preferences of Logic X under Advanced Tools set the checkmark for MIDI

- Thereafter one can choose 'Click & Ports'  from 'Window, Open MIDI Environment'

- Under 'New' create a 'Monitor'

- Drag that one down and connect it with the port that should be excluded for Logic (the port where remote info etc is coming in). See screenshot (magnifier/glasses needed to perform the connection).

http://www.rme-audio.de/img/SettingsLogicMidi.png

Update: there is a new firmware for the ARC USB available that changes the ARC USB Midi communication to SysEx. That solves the Logic problem. See here:

https://www.forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopi … 59#p135359

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

Matthias,

Nice!

Do you have/know a solution for Digital Performer?

Best,
Stefan.

Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

Same question. Any solution for Digital Performer. I've been searching Motu documents to no avail.

Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

Stefan,
Not sure if you found a solution yet. But i found with the help of a FB DP group, to just not allow CC0 through.
In Setup / Input Filter... /  in Controllers, choose 'All except..." and put in CC 0. Since i never use CC0 it seems to be a solution for me at least at this point.

Best,
Kevin

Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

Hi all we still have this issue which is unsolved - I believe it is causing a work secondary issue with logic causing our USB keyboard to drop out

I have tried the screen shot filter but can seem to get it to work. partidicualy I notice the RME ARC sends on multiple channels.

Running LPX 10.4.1 on (10.12.6 )

Video of issue no 1 here: https://vimeo.com/278950067

Note if I click by all control surfaces it stops. However weirdly if I do this in certain projects this choice is not saved as a preference. The issue before we rebuilt our computer recently (Mac Pro dustbin rebuilt because of the issue 2 below) seemed to go once you initially select bypass control surfaces and it was remembered in preferences but now it seems to keep occurring.

We use an RME ARC USB controller to control Totalmix master outs and workflow snapshots.

Issue 2: We are also suffering with usb keyboard drop outs which I suspect is related to this same issue. Our USB keyboard works fine and then quite quickly within a session it drops out of logic (but when this happens you can leave logic open and goto OSX Audio/Midi and test connection and the keyboard is still there and works with the test tone) but you need to close logic to get a reconnection. this doesn't happen in any other daw, is not the keyboard or usb or hub. very much likely related to this over all issue of two devices fighting against each other.

Since 10.4 upgrade logic picks up the midi signal from the RME. Using midi monitor the arc sends midi signals every millisecond as the volume encoder is endless so its always sending signal. The RME seems to send various midi channel signals ranging from 1-4 upward. I have seem this issue discussed with LPX the RME ARC on the RME forum with a workaround discussed but I can't solve it.

I have tried applying a monitor in the clicks and Ports but it doesn't work for me. I can see that if I play a usb keyboard that the keyboard and are are received on the same channel.

I have the possibility of changing the usb keyboard midi in channel etc if I can block something. My concern is that the RME ARC USB seems to be sending on multiple channels.

HELP this is driving me mad (yes we can stop it by bypassing control surfaces but this should not be happening.

Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

Update I have had a breakthrough

we have an issue of our m audio or a novation controller keyboard losing connection within logic continuously, but if you leave logic open and test if the midi keyboard is connected still via the OS X audio and midi app it is still connected - the issue occurs when using logic not Ableton. We have removed the arc usb from the system for two days and have not had a single drop out

its the RME arc causing our problem

Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

Thanks for posting this workaround. I don't have an ARC yet. Does it conflict if connected directly to the interface?

ufx ii / bfp

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Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

No. In that case there is no MIDI communication with TM FX, but direct.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

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Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

Hello All,
i too had this ARC USB Issue here how i fixed it.
as it an issue with Logic Pro X that it accepts all midi data from what ever its connect to it via usb.
there is nothing to do with ARC USB.

I went ahead with the solution which was mentioned by MC, but it was not working Logic Pro X still was accepting random data from the ARC.

Here is a fix:
1. Open LPX > Window > Open Midi Environment
2. From the layer menu select Click & Ports.
3. In the Physical Input section disconnect the routing from "SUM" to Input Notes using an eraser tool,.
4. Reconnect the routing either using pencil tool or the regular pointer tool, but this time connect just below the arrow next to sum, to you Input Notes.
5. Tadaa...You are Sorted.
6. Do this with a blank LPX project and then save it as a template for your future projects.

PS: Sum is the all together information coming from all you midi devices physically connected.
to avoid loosing inputs from the other controllers (if you have any) you will have to re-route each device to their desired locations.


Thank You.


https://pasteboard.co/I86ntJ0.png

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Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

Added link to ARC USB firmware update to first post.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

Thanks MC
Thanks for guiding me for the firmware update, i went ahead and did the update.
Now i am on version 7, the issue has been resolved, however,

1. The conflict is gone, but LPX's Midi Activity is now a pain to look at, it keeps on flashing from ( No In to X 1 0 0).
2. Do i have to select the Midi SysEx SE on the total mix or not, cuz even after not selecting it works.


Thanks

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Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

2. It's automatic.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

hey everyone

don't know if this is posted elsewhere in the various threads about Logic and ARC conflicts, but hopefully it can help someone.

I also had issues where the ARC was causing midi to stop working in Logic (10.4.3).  my controller (behringer BCR2000) and Komplete Kontrol S88 were dropping out, after 30 mins or so midi wouldn't work any more, and every time when I removed the ARC the problem went away.

I tried the environment filter fix posted here to filter out the stream of midi data the arc was generating, but it didn't help.  still dropped out after a while.

I lived with it for ages as I never saw any other options posted here, but the other day while doing something else I came across the INPUTS page in the MIDI preferences

(LOGIC-PREFERENCES-MIDI-inputs) and I deactivated the ARC as an input there. 

as of today the problem seems to have disappeared. 

very happy now, for me no need for the environment thing.

hope this helps someone.  I'll report back if the problem comes back.

cheers

simon

Re: MIDI input control for Mac Logic X (MIDI remote, ARC USB etc)

just to add, I never saw that MIDI input window before, maybe its a new addition to Logic since this problem first surfaced? 

I see people saying above there is no easy way to set midi inputs in logic, but this is exactly that...