Topic: Question about new ADI-2 FS

Apologies if this is posted in the wrong forum.  I have an ADI-2 PRO (non-FS version).  I am interested in adding additional AD/DA channels via the new ADI2-FS when it is released. I did not see any converter latency specs in the ADI2-FS manual.  Will they be identical to the ADI-2 PRO?   I record a lot of small ensembles with multiple microphones on the same source and am hoping to avoid aligning tracks post recording. 

Also, since my ADI2-PRO does not have FS clocking, will there by any performance improvement by clocking it to an ADI2-FS?

Re: Question about new ADI-2 FS

> I am interested in adding additional AD/DA channels via the new ADI2-FS when it is released.

To the ADI-2 Pro ? So you talk about 1 device / 2 channels more ?

Then the signal flow would be like this:

Case A: Micro1 - Preamp ------------------------------------------------------+ Analog 1 IN - ADI-2 Pro
Case A: Micro2 - Preamp ------------------------------------------------------+ Analog 2 IN - ADI-2 Pro
Case B: Micro3 - Preamp -----+ Analog1 IN - ADI-2 FS - ADAT OUT ----+ ADAT      IN - ADI-2 Pro
Case B: Micro4 - Preamp -----+ Analog2 IN - ADI-2 FS - ADAT OUT ----+ ADAT      IN - ADI-2 Pro

Case A: you would have @44.1 kHz AD converter latency of 0.11 ms according to the manual.
Case B: you have the AD conversion only at the ADI-2 FS via ADAT the signal is already digital.

Assumption 1: to be confirmed by RME: potentially same A/D converter, so I would guess also 0.11ms.
Assumption 2: a little bit more on top because of the additional transfer via ADAT, but I would guess this is not much.

BR Ramses - UFX III, 12Mic, XTC, ADI-2 Pro FS R BE, RayDAT, X10SRi-F, E5-1680v4, Win10Pro22H2, Cub13

Re: Question about new ADI-2 FS

Thank you Ramses.  Yes, assumptions 1&2 are what I seek to confirm.  Your diagram is how I intend to use it (although I may choose AES over spdif).

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Re: Question about new ADI-2 FS

First the latency depends on the used filters. The ADI-2 FS uses SD Sharp for AD (and DA), and the same chip(s), so the latency will be nearly identical if you set the same filters on the ADI-2 Pro.

Second the additional path to digital out and back in will add a few samples for digital buffering. I just measured it via USB, feeding both units the same analog signal:

Single Speed: 44.1 kHz - 52 us = 2 samples
Double Speed: 96 kHz - 23 us = 2 samples
Quad Speed: 192 kHz - 38 us = 7 samples

I don't think such a miniscule delay needs any kind of interaction when talking about microphone recordings. Just make sure the main stereo mics (or the ones that relate to a main signal) are on the same unit.

For example setting the ADI's AD filter to Sharp instead will cause 16 samples difference in single speed.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME

Re: Question about new ADI-2 FS

Thank you, this is very helpful.  What do you think about clocking a non-FS PRO to an ADI2-FS.  Any benefit or should I leave the pro as master?

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Re: Question about new ADI-2 FS

Zero difference. But using the Pro as master and the FS as SPDIF clock slave provides easiest operation on sample rate changes.

Regards
Matthias Carstens
RME